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Opinion: What is anarcha-feminism? Do we need it?

FeminismThe way to strengthen class solidarity is to strengthen the relationships between men and women within the class, and this means an end to oppression of women as women by working class men. What is anarchist feminism? Do we need a feminist consciousness?
by Anna Aniston
http://annaaniston.blogsome.com/

Historically, anarcha-fem was when anarchist women realized that anarchist men weren’t dealing with their patriarchal conditioning towards privilege. The women needed something in addition to anarchist theory and practice because it was getting them nowhere. They realized that they needed feminist consciousness. But that feminist consciousness had to reject privilege, and had to be based in class politics. Because without class politics, working class women would merely be awarded gains for ruling and middle class women.

Anarchism assumes that we’re all equal, but we’re not. Our cultural conditioning makes it impossible for us to come to the table as equals in struggle. I’ve heard people (and even myself) give an analysis of privilege as though we were all positioned on a ladder - all white ruling class men are at the top, black women in poverty are at the bottom, and everyone else jumbles into the middle somewhere. But that’s just so simplistic and unrealistic. It totally ignores all the different factors that contribute to create hierarchies of privilege, and all the other complex factors that contribute to maintaining those hierarchies on a day-to-day basis.

Once you say you’re an anarchist, you’re meant to give up hierarchy and become equal to everyone else. But it’s not that simple. You can’t simply leave your privilege at the door, especially when you don’t analyze and understand how that privilege came to you in the first place. Pretending that the problem will go away, or doesn’t exist won’t work to dispatch global capitalism, it won’t save our environment from destruction, and it won’t work to eliminate sexism or racism from anarchist communities.

There’s a current of thought circulating at the moment which is based on 5 points of observation about anarchism and feminism:

1. Its not men’s’ fault that they were born men, so they can’t be expected to do anything about their male privilege
2. If women feel uncomfortable about a particular man’s particular actions, then the woman needs to deal with that particular man by pointing out how his particular actions weren’t OK
3. Feminism is just a bourgeois attempt to shame working class men get power over them, and when working class women take up feminism, it is divisive of the working class as a revolutionary agent
4. When a man has other forms of disprivilege (like class, knowledge, race, access to money) then this automatically dissolves his gender privilege.
5. Women already have gender equality in Australia today
(This approach consists of things I have ‘heard around the traps’. It is the sum of excuses and reasoning I have heard from several sources while talking about men, women and privilege. I’m not trying to refute a stated position - but I am trying to crystallize several ‘reasonings’ so that they can be refuted. Part of the difficulty I find in feminist theorizing is the liquidity afforded to feminism’s critics - they aren’t easily pinned down).

I think this approach denies the overall political importance of the collective oppression of women, by men at every level in society. It’s important to realize that just because a woman is oppressed by other women (hip hip hooray for the middle classes!), that this doesn’t invalidate that oppression of women, as women. A woman can take the place of oppressor, but if she acts like a patriarch, she enforces the patriarchy, she gains power like a patriarch and she uses the oppressive tools of a patriarch, then she is a patriarch. She doesn’t need a penis to enforce a system of values which privilege men and maleness.
In response to these 5 elements of current anarchist thought and practice, I would like to say:

1. Its not men’s’ fault that they were born men, so they can’t be expected to do anything about their male privilege.

By this logic, there can be no stopping those born into the monied classes either. In a liberal-demoncratic society, of course oppressors will give the excuse that they don’t mean to be oppressive. What’s more, I would accept that excuse, provided that the privilege stops. As women, we are taught to subject ourselves to shame about our bodies, our thoughts and feelings (and if we lapse, there’s always someone there to help us feel more shame). As anarchists, we don’t want to reverse the relationship of privilege by shaming men when they dominate as men. No! We want an end to the domination. Anarchist women want anarchist men to discontinue engaging in male privilege. No more, no less.

2. If women feel uncomfortable about a particular man’s particular actions, then the woman needs to deal with that particular man by pointing out how his particular actions weren’t OK

This denies that there is a broad political basis for the exclusion of women from participating in their own lives in any meaningful way. Individuals do perpetuate hierarchy when it benefits them to do so; so individual men are the proponents of patriarchy. And individual women are the victims. This ‘individual man’ approach pits the victim against the oppressor, alone, unsupported, and unable to access a political case against her oppressor (because he is an individual man, not a representative of an oppressive system). This is so alien to anarchist politics (especially those of us who are into workerism and anarcho-syndicalism) that it barely warrants refutation. As anarchists, we strive to organize collectively against those oppressive relationships that fuck up our lives, but as women anarchists, we’re expected to go it alone against the most complex, intimate and oppressive relationships.
In anarchist thought, it’s up to the oppressed to organize and overthrow the oppressor. But when you’re talking about insidious, hidden relationships of power that disrupt even the most intimate relationships (of partnership, voluntary union, love, child raising, co-working) in subtle ways; you can’t simply overthrow the oppressors. They are our partners in the species, if nothing else. Valerie Solanas in her “SCUM Manifesto” suggested eliminating men from the planet as a sure-fire way to combat male oppression. People called her crazy (and let’s face it, she probably was), but this course of action is pretty much what is expected of anarchist women - to rise up against their oppressors in the same way that the working class will rise up against the ruling class to purge them from this earth, because men don’t really want to deal with the issue of themselves as oppressor. Anarchism seems to give women the choice of either eliminating men, or bearing the cross of womens’ oppression.
Even that language is so insidious! “Womens’ oppression” as though we own and perpetuate the oppression of ourselves as women! Ha. It’s “oppression of women by a system which privileges men”. The only way to disrupt male privilege is for men to consciously cease to engage in male privilege.

3. Feminism is just about shaming men to get power over them, and this is divisive of the working class as a revolutionary agent

It is the power that men wield over women that divides working class men from working class women. The only way in which working class women anarchists are divisive is by demanding an end to the privilege held over us. The way to strengthen class solidarity is to strengthen the relationships between men and women within the class, and this means an end to oppression of women as women by working class men. This will mean an appraisal of the roles that men and women play within class struggle, an appraisal of the gender balance in anarchist organizing, an appraisal of how often we all clean the toilet or take out the garbage, and on and on until the class is actually united in struggle for a better life for all (not just male revolutionaries united and supported by unpaid female domestic labour) … Power to the sisters and therefore to the class.

4. When a man has other forms of disprivilege (like class, knowledge, race, access money) then this automatically dissolves his gender privilege.

I’m caucasian. I went to uni (but didn’t finish). I was a gifted child (but not very). I was born into the arse-end of the working class (but didn’t fit in there because I was fairly clever, and hated for it). My job pays me well, for what I do, but I’ll probably never own my own house - not even in cessnock. I’m not in a lesbian relationship, and never have been. I buy new clothes, but I don’t dress like a corporate woman. What is the sum total of my privilege? My privilege can’t be weighted and summed to a round number, and then compared against everyone else (if nothing else, that’s a hierarchy, and we’re against those).

The myth that privileges can be balanced does media miracles for white liberals (and those wanting to appear so). Take the Bush administration in the ’states: Condoleezza Rice and Colin Powell - 2 Black people (one a woman) in very high positions in the government, so Bush must be a tolerant, anti-racist, all-round good guy. No! Two millionaires who have no trouble developing and enacting racist, anti-woman, anti-worker policies to further their own aims. They’ve got no sympathy with the working class because their blackness is only skin-deep. They’ve been excused from the negative connotations of blackness and womanhood in exchange for selling their image as symbols of tolerance AND participation in dominance over others.
Anarchists should know better. Blackness, or womanhood, or being working class doesn’t excuse you from responsibility over your own daily relationships with other people. This includes relationships of co-operation and of dominance. When men are being oppressors as men, over women as women, then their privilege should be apparent to all.

5. Women already have gender equality in Australia today.

Women do not even have gender parity in lots of trades, professions and positions of trust in Australia today. Lots of middle class women appear to have an equality of opportunity, but that isn’t nearly the same as an end to gender-based oppression.

A note on men and maleness
I’ve talked here about “men”, “men’s privilege”, “patriarchy” etc. I want to make clear that this is by no means all men that I’m talking about. This has parallels with class - not all ruling class people are evil. Lots of them just go to work, do their jobs and it never crosses their minds that thousands of people can lose their jobs and livelihoods at a stroke of their pen. Some of them would even think that they truly deserve their six-figure paychecks (after all, its only enough for a house in the country and a flat in the town). Only a few really live like kings, and most of them have a genuine job that they do which lets them explain away their privilege as something they’ve earned.
Not all men hate all women. Only a few would actually hate them all, and most might only have slight feelings of disharmony with specific women they didn’t get along with. Men are still socialized to be aggressive (and women to be passive), they have a myriad of reasons to explain their behaviour as natural and normal. BUT this doesn’t mean that their behaviour is natural and normal or a neutral way to behave.
If you’re a man, and you’ve got to the end, woo. Maybe your behaviour is really cool and good, and you’re not a sexist dickhead at all. But, what do you do when your women anarchist friends need to stand up to someone who is being a sexist dickhead, who is exercising his power and privilege over them because they are women?

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Opinion: What is anarcha-feminism? Do we need it?
Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, October 13 2005 @ 01:30 AM UTC
I'm a male, and I think it's somewhat offensive to think that I simplify my belief
into "It's not my fault I'm a man, so I do'nt have to do anything." I can't speak
for anyone else, obviously, but I try to do something about any problems with
patriarchy I, or other men, may have, but I do not think it's fair that I should
have to shoulder the blame for all the fucked up things that men have done. I
think the best that can be expected is that I do what I can to contribute to
gender equality in my own interactions. People shouldn't inherit the power from
their ancestry. Nor should they have to atone for their ancestors wrongs. The
same applies to how men should interact with women. There's no reason that I
shouldn't do what I can to change things, but I also shouldn't beat myself and
make myself feel guilty because of the things that other men do.
Opinion: What is anarcha-feminism? Do we need it?
Authored by: SiberioS on Thursday, October 13 2005 @ 05:45 AM UTC
I would agree, but I would say that while its true that power shouldn't be inherited, you get it, regardless of whether you want it or not, so to a certain extent, yes, you do get the history of its misuse as well. While I'm sure no male here would be an active misogynistic dick, you still enjoy the privilages of it even if you go out of your way to destroy it as much as possible. When someone see's you, you being a man automatically classifies you into one category regardless of how against the grain you appear, or actually are. While in theory its nice to say you don't "enjoy the privilages", you do, regardless of whether you actively choose it or not. In that light than you have to take the baggage with you, and can't just completely duck out on it.

Personally, as a straight, hispanic male, if someone lobs the privilage thing on me, I really have no problem with it. What am I going to say? That someone pointing out my priviliged position and making me feel "guilty" is on par with the real, ridiculously shite situation and dsiadvantage there at? I really have nothing to complain about so having it pointed out when I am coming from a priviliged positon to me in constructive, not an attempt to guilt trip or shame me. I think complaining about getting a wee bit of guilt, of which it in noway compares to the oppisite side, is kind of being ridiculous.
Opinion: What is anarcha-feminism? Do we need it?
Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, October 13 2005 @ 06:13 PM UTC
If you don't think her comments apply to you, why do you assume they are directed at you? What are you defensive about?
Opinion: What is anarcha-feminism? Do we need it?
Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, October 13 2005 @ 08:18 PM UTC
Because the way she writes is very confusing and unlear

just what are "currents of thought" and who has them? This is typical of a lot of writing I see here, it makes things very difficult to discuss.

Opinion: What is anarcha-feminism? Do we need it?
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, October 14 2005 @ 06:01 PM UTC
because it seemed as though they were directed at all men, and I don't like
being sent on an unecessary guilt trip. It's not productive. What is productive is
actually looking at the problems, specifically, and solving them. What is not
productive is trying to make all men feel guilty because they're men, not
because of any specific behaviour.
Opinion: What is anarcha-feminism? Do we need it?
Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, October 13 2005 @ 11:00 PM UTC
"I'm not bad, its someone else"

I'd like to see you argue against the "ethical capitalist" from that morally bankrupt position.
Opinion: What is anarcha-feminism? Do we need it?
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, October 14 2005 @ 09:10 PM UTC
a capitalist, however "ethical" they may think they are, <i>chooses</i> to be a
capitalist. I, on the other hand, do not choose to be a male. I was born that
way, and I do whatever I can to bring gender equality, but I don't think it is
right to hold me responsible for patriarchy.
Opinion: What is anarcha-feminism? Do we need it?
Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, October 13 2005 @ 08:22 AM UTC
"A woman can take the place of oppressor, but if she acts like a patriarch,
she enforces the patriarchy, she gains power like a patriarch and she uses
the oppressive tools of a patriarch, then she is a patriarch. She doesn
Opinion: What is anarcha-feminism? Do we need it?
Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, October 13 2005 @ 09:19 AM UTC
Umm no...

He was upholding social privilege. Not 'white social privilege'. Just like a decent percentage of white, a decent percentage of blacks are well off. That doesn't mean that they're white or any of that blackmask nonsense. They're simply rich and fuck them.
Opinion: What is anarcha-feminism? Do we need it?
Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, October 13 2005 @ 10:19 AM UTC
yeah, so nevermind the fact that blacks and other people of color are disproportinately poor in this country. and if you think race matters, you're just a nationalist black supremacist authoritarian.
Opinion: What is anarcha-feminism? Do we need it?
Authored by: SiberioS on Thursday, October 13 2005 @ 12:18 PM UTC
It's pretty much true what your pointing out. Black upper class members of society prefer to propogate white power by virtue of not wanting to lose what they have, or because most of them earned their money via praying off either their own or other low income minorities. If white people own everything, how is it that you get ahead? By becoming white yourself, by coming to hold the value system and ideals of the people who own everything, in the futile hopes that they may let you share in a fraction of the wealth. Same with women. If every person who owns a slice of the pie is male, how do you get to it? By becoming a man yourself, by reinforcing authority and hiearchy and by becoming "one of the guys". You sold everyone else out for a tiny bit of the wealth, so you could stand up and say you supposedly struck a blow for "Women" when you know you got your money by bowing down to and at the will of men.
Opinion: What is anarcha-feminism? Do we need it?
Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, October 13 2005 @ 12:44 PM UTC
1. men have a certain amount of power that women dont , if not so
much in america in other countrys as anarchist are internationalists they
much keep holding themsleves and other people to a certain level of
respect for women and all other human beings .
2. social inequality exists but it is more or less in womens hands (and a
few male activists) in line with the concept of self-liberation
3. feminism should exist for the pupose of challanging the church on
issues such a abortion, clothes and so on.



Opinion: What is anarcha-feminism? Do we need it?
Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, October 13 2005 @ 04:45 PM UTC
I HIGHLY recommend "The Myth of Male Power": www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0425181448?v=glance

I don't buy the argument that half of humanity is solely to blame.

No gender roles, no gender entitlements.
Opinion: What is anarcha-feminism? Do we need it?
Authored by: SiberioS on Thursday, October 13 2005 @ 08:51 PM UTC
I would say that I want to see the destruction of gender as a social concept. But I think its ridiculous to assert that a man can just get a free pass cause he throws his hands up and says that he doesn't believe in gender roles. I'm empathatic to the concepts of genderqueer and transgendered identities, but I'm not proud enough to say that men don't enjoy benefits, and regardless of their attempts to remove themselves from it, its still stuck there as long as people hold gender roles up. Personally, I get the feeling most people who throw up the "All genders should be equal/gender as a social concept should be destroyed" don't really think those ideas, and are merely tired of having people calling them out on their own patriarchy, and instead sit around complaining about how much criticism they get and how "divisive" other people are.

It's much like the argument the other day on here over the robbery of the Wooden Shoe infoshop. Regardless of your position on calling the cops, the simple fact is the people from the infoshop, and even Chuck0, basically told everyone to shut it because situations like that demand "solidarity" (read:loyalty and line kowtowing). No, no you don't get "solidarity" just because you labelled yourself an anarchist and post on here. You have to be prepared to get the shit ripped out of you for doing things ( I know I have), and to actually defend your actions, not throw your hands up and whine about things being "divisive" and "over-criticizing". If people can't stand being taken to task by others, anarchy is the last political position you should be taking. This means even when the most shitacular thing happens you still deserve criticism for your response (don't think your going to get a free pass just because your a "Anarchist infoshop" and you called the cops...what would you say if you stole something from a store and had the cops called on you? moreover, if cops are needed for "protection" and "Security" what the fuck exactly are you doing advocating for the dissolution of the state? if you're a statist, atleast be honest and sincere about it).

Point? If you can't stand the heat, get the fuck out of the kitchen.
Opinion: What is anarcha-feminism? Do we need it?
Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, October 13 2005 @ 05:36 PM UTC
Look, basically I am very sympathetic to feminist arguments. In practice I have often seemed them in abused in blatant power-grabs by certain activist women via the use of "guilt-tripping" men. I would just like to say that we are all obviously quite complex, and yes - men do have lots of privledge - and yes - men should realise that and make sure women take "positions of power/activity/whatever" in anarchist activity. But then women can be just as guilty as men of power-grabbing, hiearchism, and generally acting like jerks. So, we must be careful not to oversimplify things!
Opinion: What is anarcha-feminism? Do we need it?
Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, October 13 2005 @ 05:46 PM UTC
I agree
Opinion: What is anarcha-feminism? Do we need it?
Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, October 13 2005 @ 09:52 PM UTC
"yeah, so nevermind the fact that blacks and other people of color are disproportinately poor"

Exactly, so solidarity with the people of color that are poor and fuck those that aren't. Same goes for whites, greens, yellows and blues. If you support poc because most poc are poor its contradictory to expend that support to all poc, since that negates your reason for favoring poc of in the first place.
Opinion: What is anarcha-feminism? Do we need it?
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, October 14 2005 @ 08:20 AM UTC
I'm sorry but I just don't buy this cod Marxism from the get-go. PEASANTs make up the vast majority - NOT the frikken Marxist so called ' working class.' ( all representatives of seem to be middle and upper class prats btw) I'm tired of a small minority of jack-ass's acting like they are the Menshevics ( really the minority ) when they are really the Bolshevics ( really the majority ) This is blatently misleading advertizing. Consumers are hip these days and don't appreciate being sold a bill of goods like this.
Anarchism has to appeal to the majority or lifestyle/ghetto-ize itself and also it's brand differrentian betwen it and cod Marxism really sux imho. Articles like this take us backward. Sorry.
Opinion: What is anarcha-feminism? Do we need it?
Authored by: SiberioS on Friday, October 14 2005 @ 01:02 PM UTC
"Us" Who the fuck is "us" I know I didn't ask you to include "me" in whatever grand grouping you got going on. And let it be known, if the grand grouping is anyting like what you're saying in your post, then I am glad I am not part of "us". Last time I checked most of "us" were in this for a bunch of different reasons, ideals, and motivations, and that there is nothing particuarly wrong with that. Articles like "this" take "us" back? How so? Because its confronting something that very few male "anarchists" want to accept?
Opinion: What is anarcha-feminism? Do we need it?
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, October 14 2005 @ 08:23 PM UTC
a lot of feminism drops the ball because it only sees things in black and
white. men over women. not an entire range of pecking orders. in that men
are over other men. truth be told men get a pretty raw deal from patriarchy
too.

nearly all of the 2 million americans in jail are male. making the 1 in every
150 americans in jail really mean 1 in 75 males are in jail. and i know if you
consider race and class the statistics look a lot grimer.

90% of the men in this country have their genitals mutilated at birth.

women may be more likely to be depressed, but men are way more likely to
kill themselves.

women may, arguably, face more violence in this society, but men are more
likely to die from it.

although this may be changing, men under 30 face the constant threat of
violence called the draft.

violence against mens genitals is considered funny. i.e. guy gets kicked in
the balls on t.v., audience laughs.

rightfully so, much awareness and anger is wrapped around sexual assault
against women. but if a man is sexually assaulted he is extremely
marginalized.

the list could go on
Opinion: What is anarcha-feminism? Do we need it?
Authored by: SiberioS on Monday, October 17 2005 @ 08:10 AM UTC
Well aren't WE being ethnocentric today. How about women in Saudia Arabia or Middle Eastern countries? Or Africa? Or Asia for that matter? Oh whoops, I guess that bursts YOUR bubble.
Opinion: What is anarcha-feminism? Do we need it?
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, October 18 2005 @ 04:56 PM UTC
not sure how this bursts my bubble. the word "too" means also. not saying
men have it worse than women, just saying that men don't have it good.
but thanks for being a man with your alpha male "gotcha" attitude.
Opinion: What is anarcha-feminism? Do we need it?
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, October 18 2005 @ 05:02 PM UTC
also americans make up 25% of all incarcerated people in the world.
meaning american men make up 12.5% of all people held in cages in the
entire world. not to be ethnocentric.
Opinion: What is anarcha-feminism? Do we need it?
Authored by: Anonymous on Sunday, October 23 2005 @ 08:32 PM UTC
The percentage of male to female prisoners in American society is not 50-50. Female prisoners make up 8.5 percent of the total population. So if you do the math, Male prisoners in the U.S. account for 22.27% of the worlds inmate population.

Source; http://www.nationmaster.com/country/us/Crime

~Ayla
Opinion: What is anarcha-feminism? Do we need it?
Authored by: Anonymous on Sunday, October 23 2005 @ 08:53 PM UTC
yeah thanks. total mind fart on math.