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Intersex & Trans Demands

News ArchiveHere are two separate lists that a few of us developed in Atlanta. We initially wrote the list because we had found other lists in regards to sexism to be good, but incomplete and lacking in our own experiences. http://www.geocities.com/gainesvilleavengers/intersextransdemands.htm

INTERSEX & TRANS DEMANDS

April, 2004

Here are two separate lists that a few of us developed in Atlanta. We initially wrote the list because we had found other lists in regards to sexism to be good, but incomplete and lacking in our own experiences.

The trans demands are lacking in MtF voices. This list comes out of our community. The list is far from complete, but is good to start discussions around these issues. We wanted to make sure we sent them out before the SEAnet (South Eastern Anarchist network) Gathering in April [2004]. We encourage everyone (particularly SEAnet organizers) to take the time to read them.

INTERSEX LIST OF DEMANDS

Don't assume you know someone's sex based on how you perceive them or their gender.
Don't assume all women have a vagina, uterus, etc.
Don't assume all men have a penis, testes, etc.
Don't fetishize our bodies.
Don't use the word hermaphrodite to describe us unless we identify that way and give permission.
Don't feel sorry for us.
Respect our sex identification.
Don't exploit our existence to discredit biological determinism or other academic ideologies.
Know the difference between sex and gender.
Know the difference between intersexed and transgendered.
Don't ask us or try to picture what our genitals look like.
Don't ask us if we have sexual sensations.
Don't assume you have the right to know intimate details of our bodies. We have the right to privacy and safety like all other people.
Realize we have historically been mutilated, fetishized, and made into freak shows. Understand how this affects us and our safety.
Don't say "cool" or "weird" or treat us differently when we tell you we are intersexed.
Educate yourself!!! Read books on intersex.
Girl, woman, female; boy, man, male are not always interchangeable.
Don't assume all intersex people are queer.
Realize that not all people with intersex condition are out.
Realize that not all people with intersex conditions even know that they are intersexed.
Remember that we are 1 in 100, and that is not rare at all!!!
Don't call our conditions "disorders," "retardations," "abnormalities," etc.
Realize that bodies come in all different shapes, sizes and with different parts.
Realize how fucking strong we are to speak up about the medical abuse and victimization we have been through and that we deserve mad props.
Don't write us off as rare and unimportant. Don't put off educating yourself for other "more important" issues.
In situations such as gender caucuses, keep in mind that not all the people who identify as women have similar genitalia, etc. Understand that we have been taught that our bodies are "wrong" and "ugly" and that it reinforces this when people say they love being women because of their vagina, uterus, etc., this reinforces those feelings. Woman does not necessarily = female. Man does not necessarily = male.

TRANS/GENDER LIST OF DEMANDS

Don't assume someone's gender identity.
Don't constantly reference someone's gender identity in an attempt to seem OK with it. Likewise, don't think we care if you're OK with us or not. No one asked for your approval.
Don't trip up on pronouns- if you fuck up, simply correct yourself and go on.
Don't glamorize someone's gender identity or think it's "cool" or say that you're "into it."
Read trans/gender theory. Know the difference between: transgender, transsexual, gender fucking, gender blending/bending, gender vs. sex, binary gender, passing, transitioning, binding, tucking, packing/stuffing, third genders, drag queens/kings, androgyny, butch, femme, crossdressing, boi, MtF, FtM, tranny boys, tranny dykes, boydykes, transfags, etc., etc., etc.!!!
Know the difference between intersex and transgender. Think about how you would really feel if someone you loved transitioned. Think about your fears and why you have them.
Recognize your own transphobia.
Know about transitioning and surgery and hormones.
Don't just name yourself a "trans ally" one day.
Realize that some of us have struggled with our gender identity for a long time. Don't think that we just woke up one day and decided that we would identify as transgendered. So when we finally find a space that we're comfortable in (even if temporarily), don't co-opt that space or try to make it yours too.
Even if you think fucking with gender is hot, don't talk about it in an objectifying way.
Realize that it can be hard existing in in-between spaces and really know that trans oppression and transphobia exist. Know the fear of not being able to determine when you pass, the fear of being arrested/strip searched/thrown in the wrong holding cell, the threat of violence, the annoyance of having to "come out" about your gender identity constantly, etc.
Understand the privilege of feeling at home in your body, using a public bathroom, knowing which M/F box to check, having people assume your gender identity and them being right, etc.
Realize that there is a gender community and that the validation we receive from that community can be incomparable to what you could ever offer us and let us seek refuge there.
Recognize how class and race fit into these equations.
Recognize and respect someone's gender identity regardless of whether or not they choose to have surgery or take hormones. Similarly, don't judge someone for transitioning or not wanting to identify as "transgendered."
Don't think of a transgender identity as "political."
Don't partner with us out of some weird transitioning or coming out process for you. Don't ask us how we fuck.
Question your own gender! (But don't then tell me, "You know, I've never felt like a 'real man'/'real woman' either." -What this means is don't assume our experiences are the same.
Don't ask questions about someone trying to determine their "real gender."
Don't think that FtM are dealing with some kind of internalized sexism.
Don't assume our gender identity, render it invisible, or think it doesn't matter because of who we choose to partner with.
Don't label our gender or sexual identity for us. Recognize the difference between the two!
Don't think of our experiences and identities as monolithic.
Don't think we are a "recent emergence" that somehow came out of gender/queer theory and academia.
Realize that there are a variety of trans/gender expressions. Don't assume that people should express their gender similarly just because they both identify as transgendered. Likewise, don't judge someone because you think that their trans identity and gender expression conflict.
Think about the language you use to differentiate between trans and non-trans people and if it's even necessary to differentiate.
Don't assume trans people have a "shared experience" with people assigned the same gender.
Don't assume FtMs are "better" than other men, or MtFs are not "as good" as other women (especially in terms of sexism).
When doing introductions at a meeting, say the pronoun you prefer for that space along with your name, etc. (Facilitators should make sure this is done.)
Be sensitive to pronouns you use for someone when dealing with authority, police. Keep in mind that people's pronouns/gender identity may not always match up with their I.D.
Don't include us in your process of learning about intersex or trans issues unless we ask you about it.
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Intersex & Trans Demands
Authored by: Anonymous on Sunday, January 16 2005 @ 12:41 AM CST
i think it's really great and promising that this and the consent questions got posted on here. it goes a long way toward starting to make this feel like a less straight-male-dominated (virtual) space.
and i'm really glad it's here under "anarchist movement" and not "queer." because this is something that anarchists and antiauthoritarians of all stripes need to be struggling with and working on. it can't be just the job of queer folks to fight heterosexist crap.
i'd add "think about the label of 'ally' and be sure that you're using it to reflect solidarity, and not to protect yourself from possible identification as trans, intersex or queer."

i get mistaken for straight all the time. it's not immediately fatal, i promise.

and i'd question the thing about trans not being a political identity. i know a good hunk of queer people, myself included, who see their identities as inherently political, given all the social and political opposition to them.

anyway, hooray for consent, down with heterosex-archy.
that's about it.

b
Intersex
Authored by: Anonymous on Sunday, January 16 2005 @ 06:24 PM CST
yeah, i posted both of those. i put together www.anarcha.org/sallydarity, and i realized that there are a lot of cool things on there that people that don't know about the website haven't seen yet.
i put the intersex & transgender demands under anarchist movement because it doesn't necessarily fit under queer: like it said in the intersex demands, intersex people often aren't queer. i don't remember if this is addressed in the list too, but several transgender people don't identify as queer as well. i considered putting it under sex, but it's not necessarily about sex. and then putting it under feminism occured to me, but it didn't seem to fit there.
i agree that being queer or any of those identities can be political, but i think not everyone wants it to be treated as political.
Intersex
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, January 17 2005 @ 09:00 PM CST
I would like to add the following: Don't assume that every transgendered person agrees with the demands listed above. There are some of us (well at least me) who have the same expectations with regards to our trans-identities as we do about everything else: Be honest, respectful, and kind.

Feel free to ask me about my trans-identity. If you are learning, I am happy to help you. If you wish to help, I will gladly accept your hand in the spirit in which it is offered. If you are confused, I am happy to help you figure it out. If you wish to share my space (whether trans, queer, table at the coffee shop, or whatever) your acceptance by me is *not* conditional on who you are. If you are happy for me, I will be glad. If you are worried that you don't know the precise definition for all those terms, you and I can figure them out together, because I am not certain myself. And if you wish to include me in your process of learning about anything
Intersex
Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, September 28 2005 @ 03:51 PM CDT

Just to say I appreciate your generosity on this one. As someone who is learning about these issues there is always a certain anxiety about breaching some kind of unwritten protocol or blundering around and saying the wrong thing. I think an honest respect for other people, avoiding assumptions or inappropriate curiosity, and a genuine desire to understand - coupled with a realisation that I can understand intellectually but its not the same as living it - is about the best I can manage to begin with. I found the 'rules' helpful and I did think most of them were just basic sensitivity in the way any of us should interact with other people, but it was a bit daunting to be presented with a long list that I might inadvertantly breach.

Best wishes

Marie
Intersex
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, January 18 2005 @ 12:47 PM CST
I really hate lumping intersex in with trans and vice-versa. There is overlap but they are two entirely different things. One you are born with, one you chose. I was born with an intersex "condition" and I choose to be queer (please don't give me that hetero/gay essentialist bullshit, it's all a choice). It's part of the same struggle, but it's not the same thing. It shouldn't be associated that way. Anyways that's my two cents.

Also, the figure 1 in 100. Where did this come from? The highest I ever heard is 1 in 150 males are born with hypospadias (the most common "condition" which I have), that number seems to high. ISNA says about 1 in 300-400 men, that seems more like it.

Also, I am interested in talking to other anti-authoritarian intersex folks as to my knowledge I have never met any others (who are at least open about, I am not). You can contact me at: innothingness@yahoo.com I would appreciate it.
Intersex
Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, January 19 2005 @ 03:17 PM CST
i think this is where the 1 in 100 figure came from...
http://www.isna.org/drupal/node/view/91
at the bottom of the chart, it says "Total number of people whose bodies differ from standard male or female: one in one hundred births."
i would guess that the authors knew they weren't representing everyone and that might have been a reason that they didn't post this list all over the place. i guess it's still a work in progress.
also, i guess the authors found it suitable to lump the two issues together, since it all involves gender oppression and marginalization.
i think some people would argue that being transgender is not a choice, but i'm not going to argue that for them.
Intersex
Authored by: aline on Wednesday, November 16 2005 @ 09:33 PM CST
The intersex discourse did help me a lot to understand myself as a transwoman. To be a trans it's not a choice, this is really something that "you are born with". Yeah, I don't see mylself as part of any queer community as a trans person but as a bissxual lesbian.

And I believe that transexuality is a kind of intersex condition in a different level.

Hugs!
Intersex... Tone of Article
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, January 18 2005 @ 01:12 PM CST
Oh me again from the last comment. Sorry, I read through it one more time and wanted to place a last a final comment on the intersex part (which hits close to home while the other one does not) which is: the way it was written seems very harsh (well it is demands right?) and does not open a dialog about intersex issues which is important. Most folks I know are fairly knowledgeable about trans issues, but know little to nothing about intersex issues. An open dialog about the issues and the horrible mutilations we go through (i.e. my penis cut apart and sown back up to put the urethra in the "right place" so I could be a "normal" boy) is what we should be going for.

God... I should like a liberal! What the hell? Oh well. Here's four cents I guess. Nothing but love...